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Post by bellaswan335 on Apr 29, 2007 18:59:19 GMT -5
Yeah, because even though I want Edward and Bella to be together, I would cry my eyes out if Jacob were killed or something. What if he is killed by Victoria trying to protect Bella because he still loves her? OMG, that would suck
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Post by WaruiUsagi on Apr 29, 2007 23:38:29 GMT -5
Oh no! Now you have me worried! I'm pretty sure he doesn't get killed in Eclipse. I do, however, know that he does somthing pretty spectacular for Bella and I can't wait to find out what it is! XD
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Post by petaldust on May 26, 2007 16:04:48 GMT -5
I've been wondering about how Stephenie kept quoting Romeo and Juliet through some parts of New Moon and she repeated the part about "They fight, Paris falls" or something like that. Does that mean Jacob will die because of Edward or is Stephenie trying to throw us off there?
And I also think if Bella is bitten it will be at the end of Eclipse or the beginning of Breaking Dawn because "breaking dawn" should be like a new start right? A new life as a vampire for Bella.
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Post by WaruiUsagi on May 27, 2007 4:23:16 GMT -5
That's exactly what I think. Bella won't be turned in Eclipse, or at least. not until the very end.
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Post by petaldust on Jun 5, 2007 15:25:37 GMT -5
Yup, it makes sense.
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Post by azure on Jun 10, 2007 3:40:51 GMT -5
hey guys, just been struck by another idea.. besides the underworld werevamp hybrid thingy.. (i just don't have nay idea where these ideas come from..)well i was thinking what if by some chance the Volturri will be destroyed and so all the vampires will revert back as humans again and that bella won't have to become a vampire anymore thus doesn'thave to choose where her alliance btween thevamps and werewolves lie?
*just a crazy thought.. ;D*
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Post by cgifford5 on Jun 11, 2007 0:19:45 GMT -5
Petaldust, I absolutely love your analysis. You take AP english? I can see a lot of truth in what you are saying. It makes a lot of sense to me and, as Stephanie was an English major, I can see her wanting to use some kind of symbolism like with the things you said. Well done! Now for my predictions. hehe. I really dont think Edward will change Bella in Eclipse. Nor do I think Bella will accept his proposal until the end of Eclipse, or during Breaking Dawn. And I think that Bella not accepting Edward straight away will cause some tension in their relationship, not to mention the fact that Edward is so uncomfortable with changing Bella. After reading the first chapter of Eclipse about the vampire killings in Seattle, I have a strong feeling that those murderous vampires will come to our little Forks and cause the breaking of the treaty with the werewolves. I do like Jacob, but I really do hope that he is taken out of the picture completely for Bella, whether it be by ending the friendship or by is death. I honestly think that Jacob may die in Eclipse by one of the renegade murderous vampires stalking Seattle, and that's what will end the treaty. I'm not sure what the Cullens would do in that situation, but I'm eager to find out. I just don't think Bella will be changed in Eclipse because so much is still left undecided, like her family. I love Carlisle a lot. His character has really grown on me. Of course, Edward and Bella are my favorites, but Carlisle is definately next. I even like him better than Alice, and I feel like I know Alice better. I really hope we get more of Carlisle in Eclipse. And that Rosalie has a bigger role. I'm anxious to see her warm up to Bella. Maybe Rosalie will end up changing Bella to save the family?
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Post by Dazzle on Jun 11, 2007 18:01:25 GMT -5
Okay, sorry this is sort of off topic, but I do think Jacob is going to die in Eclipse saving Bella. Stephanie Meyer said in an interview: "All the Jacob-Haters will feel sorry for the poor boy at the end of Eclipse."
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Post by teeksz on Jun 11, 2007 19:05:01 GMT -5
i no i am off topic too .. but in eclipes i wish that bella does turn into a vampire .. it will make it more interesting on jacobs part .. even tho i like him .. any twists and turns are all good .. in a way i hope that there will be more romance with bella and edward but also alot of dispar .. but i do have a feeling that there is gunna be a HUGE fight n some important like sam or even jasper will die .. i dont really no but its just an observation .. hah im new soo dont crush me from my points of eclipse.
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Post by Cindy on Jun 11, 2007 20:51:34 GMT -5
Though I love Edward, i also love Jacob too. i don't want him to die. But something in my head tells me that he will end up fighting with Edward over Bella's life.
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Post by cgifford5 on Jun 11, 2007 23:19:52 GMT -5
Hmm see I don't love Jacob. I really wouldn't mind if he died. Things would be so much easier for Bella and Adward then. But I don't imagine Stephenie will want to make things easier for them, so I don't imagine that she'll kill of Jacob until the end of Eclipse. Hmmm.... Something to mull over.
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Post by Dazzle on Jun 12, 2007 11:04:13 GMT -5
How can you not like Jacob? I mean, he's no Edward, but he's still a great character!
And, as I said, at the end of Eclipse you'll probably end up liking him, at least that's what Stephenie Meyer said...
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Post by cgifford5 on Jun 12, 2007 19:42:14 GMT -5
No he's not Edward, and that's the problem with him! He was just a substitute. Now that my favorite guy is back, I really don't have a whole lot of love for Jacob. Sure he was a great friend for Bella when she was in a rough patch, but even she knew she was using him to try to make herself hurt less. Really unfair actually. But the way Jacob is just throwing away the friendship he seemed to care so much about just makes me like him even less. Even when he first became a werewolf, he was ready to let his and Bella's friendshuip fade. And now that Edward is back, he's throwing it away again. I think that if he truly cared as much as he claims to, he would find a way to be Bella's friend despite Edward. That's really not the kind of relationship I can respect at all and thus, I really can't like Jacob despite all the nice things he has done for Bella in the past. He needs to grow up if he wants to win my affection and start being true to Bella.
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Post by Dazzle on Jun 12, 2007 20:05:31 GMT -5
I agree completely with what you say. But you do have to remember, the vampire and werewolf loathe each other. They can't stand the other. Here, I'll give you a scenario: Two families. They hate each other. They want to kill each other. They just utterly hate the other family. One day, a girl who is best friends (guy) with one family, let's call them the Weres falls in love with someone from the other family, let's call them the Vams. So, this girl loves this other guy, but her best friend hates the Vams, it's practically a gene he was born with: hating the Vams. But the girl loves the guy from the Vams. If the guy from the Weres was caught with the Vams he would practically be shunned by all the other Weres. But the girl is his best friend. Will you still like the Vams guy? Okay, not the best scenario... But, have you read the first Chapter of Exlipse? It might help you not mind Jacob.
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Post by cgifford5 on Jun 12, 2007 23:09:44 GMT -5
I have read the first chapter of Eclipse, and I can see that Jacob is struggling very hard with all of this. I really want to like Jacob, because he is a nice guy and all. He's been not so great to Bella before, and that bugs me. I'm not saying Edward hasn't done some not so great things to her as well (omg i was incredibly disappointed with his leaving in New Moon. I thought my heart would fall out, I was without him for so long!), but Edward is my man for this series and I back him up completely. I don't have a clear picture in my head (I tend not to make up faces for characters I read. I don't know why I do this really. Maybe I just see everything they do and say, but have kind of blurry faces), but I have chosen my characters! Hehe. I must say, if Edward were a real person and I were a real Bella, I would drop Jacob in a heartbeat. If he's not as intent on keeping the friendship as Bella is, she should forget him. Let him live his were-life and she can live her vamp-life. With Edward. *sigh*
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